Path: ccsf.homeunix.org!CALA-MUZIK!news.moat.net!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: declan_murphy@hotmail.com Newsgroups: fj.life.in-japan,sci.lang.japan Subject: Re: Japanese study... Date: 1 Oct 2005 23:41:10 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 41 Message-ID: <1128235270.418237.200690@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <433c8492$0$17445$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <1128045377.068822.33120@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <433cb4dc$0$11682$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <1128066450.616389.253460@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <433dddd6$0$21568$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <433df27a$0$11682$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <1128140756.854105.255410@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128159086.999213.13900@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <433e67cf$0$29450$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <1128223516.241154.63180@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <433f7577$0$19138$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: 202.215.53.66 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Trace: posting.google.com 1128235277 27925 127.0.0.1 (2 Oct 2005 06:41:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 06:41:17 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <433f7577$0$19138$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> User-Agent: G2/0.2 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com; posting-host=202.215.53.66; posting-account=-TKBDwwAAADHGnl4su1VEeEJSFaZkQzO Xref: ccsf.homeunix.org fj.life.in-japan:29806 NC86 wrote: > > I don't know how you got that impression, their entire curriculum is > > JLPT and EJU oriented. That may be the reason why they have a very high > > ratio of JLPT1 & 2 examinees (pass rate about 50%) as a percentage of > > total student body. Another hint that this is basically a university > > prep cram school is the high concentration of mainland Chinese and > > "non-Malaysian/Indonesian/Thai/Phillipines ASEAN" students (which in > > nisshinkyo-speak means Vietnam). > > > > The number of proficiency levels should be enough if your main priority > > is to improve your grammar and reading skills. It isn't a short course > > but a 2 year program you would be sitting in on. > > The website shows many pictures of white people... maybe the short > course students aren't included in the stats? On April 1st this year, the data they submitted to the APJLE lists 90 students with shugaku visas, and 65 with other visas. It would be logical to assume that some long term students would be included in the "other visa" category (for example people studying using spouse, child of a Japanese national, or working holiday visas), but the majority of "other" are likely to have tankitaizai status, so they would be short term/course students. It is also possible that part-time and private students are included. The following URL is interesting http://tinyurl.com/a5xeh (http://www.geos-japanese-insti.co.jp/english/nationality/kudanmonthlynationalityreport2005july.htm) though it would be the height of the short term summer courses. And also a little worrying. I can understand why it is possible to list 57 Americans on the website, and report 0 Americans to the APJLE, because it is possible for all of the Americans to be short term students on tourist visas. What I can't understand is how they can list China (PRC) student numbers as 9, when the APJLE and Immigration Bureau figures state clearly the exact number of student visa holders by nationality for each and every school. Looking through the previous months, there are also some discrepancies understating the numbers of some nationalities when compared to the corresponding 3rd party audits.