Path: ccsf.homeunix.org!news.moat.net!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!postnews.google.com!g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: declan_murphy@hotmail.com Newsgroups: fj.life.in-japan Subject: Re: Japanese study... Date: 30 Sep 2005 22:14:07 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 46 Message-ID: <1128143647.181623.249150@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <4338dd87$0$6771$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <1127812067.149484.128750@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <433b0bcc$0$22741$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <1127952722.207631.301190@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <433c8492$0$17445$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <1128045377.068822.33120@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <433cb4dc$0$11682$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <1128066450.616389.253460@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128079872.658404.103620@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 61.195.247.171 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Trace: posting.google.com 1128143652 7822 127.0.0.1 (1 Oct 2005 05:14:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2005 05:14:12 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: User-Agent: G2/0.2 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com; posting-host=61.195.247.171; posting-account=-TKBDwwAAADHGnl4su1VEeEJSFaZkQzO Xref: ccsf.homeunix.org fj.life.in-japan:29780 CL wrote: > declan_murphy@hotmail.com wrote: > > In the Sydney, LA or Manchester sense yes. The urban area is only 7 > > million or so, but when you cross the Mikawa-ben & Owari-ben border it > > feels like a different city, which I don't hear going from say > > Shinagawa down to Yokohama. > > Then you haven't been listening too closely. Crossing the Tamagawa is > entering a completely different country. When you get to Yokohama you > have to start worrying whether you need your passport. Or, maybe those > infamous Kanto nuances are just too subtle for you ... I hear differences when heading down to the peninsula, but most of Kanto area sounds very Mikawa like. Perhaps its because the hyoujungo just blends in, and I don't really eavesdrop except when someone catches my ear. Last week on the subway into Shinjuku I couldn't help but listen to one couple, I think they were from either Yamagata or Iwate. Next time I'll pay a bit more attention if I'm heading down to Yokohama. > >>Very unlike Tokyo in many respects. > > > > Fortunately yes. A lot more nonbiri, but becoming obscenely well off. > > Main difference between Susukino, Roppongi, Umeda, Nakasu and Sakae is > > that Nagoya's district drips money. > > For all of the nights I have spent in different Japanese cities on > behalf of clients, I have to say that the least enjoyable have always > been in Nagoya. Then again, I finally learned to stay in Sakae so I > could at least get some decent yakiniku. The degree of unnecessary > ostentation in some parts of Nagoya is positively sickening. And the > government people in the offices I usually have to call on treat me like > a long lost brother in Osaka or Fukuoka or Sapporo but are complete > assholes in Nagoya. You will always be treated that way in Nagoya. Most conservative and tight fisted place in the country on one hand, and most flashy and risk taking on the other. Osaka is a friendly place by nature. Fukuoka and Sapporo are friendly places because the locals seem amazed someone would take the time to remember they exist, let alone visit them. I've been working a lot in Sapporo lately, and it is so far one of the most open minded environments I've worked in anywhere in Japan, but the worst for performance. If I need something done right now, on schedule & budget, I'll call someone in Aichi.